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Why Aespa, SM's New Girl Group, is....Interesting 

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Today, we’re going to talk about SM’s new girl group called Aespa and the very curious timing of their debut. Also, don’t worry, we will definitely dive into this AI universe that many have claimed is just straight up creepy, Lee Sooman himself being under fire for dehumanizing idols and seemingly giving sasaengs free range with their fantasies. We will also be answering the following questions: does SM have a history of covering up controversy with debut and comebacks? Is this new group reveal, an attempt to perhaps, distract us from other things. Is this AI concept even ethical? Doesn’t Kpop already have an issue with fans thinking their idols are objects to control?
Aespa will be a 4 member girl group under SM entertainment. And the name, according to SM, comes from the words Avatar X Experience and Aspect. With members Winter, Karina, Aeri and NingNing, this group will mix real-life members and AI members in a digital world.
“In aespa, we projected the futuristic vision of celebrities and avatars and created an innovative group that surpasses the boundaries of the real world and the virtual world.”
“Imagine an avatar of your favourite celebrity being created, and being together with them, next to you”
So in theory, each member would have a real life version and an AI version. And apparently both versions will get to meet up in a middle world, and be able to communicate and co-exist, going on to explain that they will be “able to promote together with a revolutionary identity”
“The real life members and the avatar members are a separate organism, and the avatar members have AI brains which allow for them to converse and to support the real members, even befriending them, sharing information, as well as going back and forth from one world to another”
#aespa #æspa #에스파
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0:00 Intro
2:05 Aespa Introduction
5:22 Fishy Timing?
6:32 SM Debut Comparisons
8:29 Was Red Velvet’s Debut Rushed?
9:37 A Distraction or Planned?
11:49 Aespa AI Concept Explained
14:06 Idol Avatar Hotel Rumor
15:09 People Think It’s Creepy
15:49 Idol Fantasies are Ok Unless…
18:40 In Defence of AI Idols
[ Angelina ]

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Evan Root
Evan Root پیش 17 روز
I just wanna say that right after she said she has a Kpop phd (1:35) , I got a Perdue University add talking about getting a degree. Ok ya that's all I wanted to say >byeeee
K_ K
K_ K پیش 22 روز
What is weird iOS that the members don’t even look like the AI. The AI members all are thinner, taller and have unrealistic beauty standards.
George F
George F پیش ماه
According to your thumbnail shot of this video, the speech balloon from Karina is saying "End of RV" ? Really? Scandalous!!!! 😱
쌈자배트맨
쌈자배트맨 پیش ماه
You know, this scandal is a cover for Aespa to gain attention. Not for Aespa to cover up the scandal. If SM is wise, they shouldn't have let Irene publicly apologize in instagram coz that's the same as ruining RV as a whole. If SM really cares about Irene and Rv, they could've atleast persuade her to just be quiet and settle things with the damn stylist privately. If the stylist really demand public apologies, that means he has some bad intentions to begin with on Irene. Obviously, this issue happened a long time ago and why now that that stupid stylist bringing up stuffs? Obviously, it's either SM who paid them or the one who instigated such scandal just for fans to be disappointed on Irene and for them to leave RV fandom and soon go to Aespa.
snoohsw
snoohsw پیش ماه
it's very K/DA -esque to me...
Dušan Sirotko
Dušan Sirotko پیش ماه
Can somone tell me what happened to red velvet and irina?
JJ RapSavage
JJ RapSavage پیش ماه
OMG, has anyone heard of Scarlett Johansson's movie HER (2013). It was amazing. SM is just trying to create HER, an AI algorithm that can provide a fan with the same type of emotional support that HER provided to Joaquin Phoenix. Joaquin fell in love with just a voice. Match ScarJo's voice with a hot avatar and with the right AI, there is no limit. I think I speak for many males who thought, yeah I see that I could fall for Scarlett Johannsson's voice AI simulation. Hello, Amazon's Alexa with Scarlett Johannsson's voice plus AI from 20 years in the future. Oh yeah, it's creepy. But isn't it such a natural extension of fandom passion. Anyway, this whole ground was been explored and discussed with the movie HER, so, this is not new subject matter. it's been discussed and concluded as really inevitable, once the software gets sophisticated enough to come close to becoming sentient or simulate human empathy. It's application to Kpop, is just new, but given the fandom emotional investment, highly predictable.
sarah
sarah پیش ماه
for confused people: 1.Karina (yoo jimin): gossiped about sm groups: kai is ugly, I'm prettier than irene, Irene is short and untalented, etc. gossiped about bts: rm and jimin are ugly, jimin has the same name as me 2.winter is the only member with no scandals yet 3. ning ning: sold confidential information about kpop and sm entertainment to outsiders 4. giselle: was known at her old school for doing drugs, smoking, bullying. she suddenly disappeared, changed her phone number, and appeared in sm entertainment's teaser tweets. overall, we know that these are true because a lot of people have come out about the three problematic members, people that have known them before, and its not just one or two people but a large number of them. I hope this helped
RED
RED پیش ماه
ppl are like "isnt it fucked up that idols have fictional counterparts" and i just glance at the entire jpop industry rn like.................
cookie plum
cookie plum پیش ماه
I AM SO HAPPY THAT I READY STAN A SECOND GROUP IST HARD FOR ME TO STAN OTHER GROUPS BUT WHEN I STAN ANOTHER THERE IS ALWAYS A PROBLEM 😩😩😩😩
Bryndon Juco
Bryndon Juco پیش ماه
Aespa's scheduled debut was already planned, way way before irene's "scandal". The mv of black mamba was recorded, sometime in august.
Mica Uy
Mica Uy پیش ماه
By the time im watching this vid they’ve already debuted and im really happy with the results and how they’re trying to tell a story line and that the use of the ae members aren’t what we expected + sm’s ceo mentioned that rv are preparing for a comeback
annie leonhart supremacy
unique queens
Just a K-pop Stan
Just a K-pop Stan پیش ماه
Aespa will probably be the singlemost problematic k-pop group in history, mark my words...
angelic
angelic پیش ماه
Marked
Just a K-pop Stan
Just a K-pop Stan پیش ماه
This concept creeps me out. I will not be stanning or supporting Aespa whatsoever.
angelic
angelic پیش ماه
Same they real weird
cookie plum
cookie plum پیش ماه
Lmao why they are so funny
impreza0109
impreza0109 پیش ماه
5:43 - wasn't it jessica's departure from SNSD?
ALYTALyrics
ALYTALyrics پیش 2 ماه
when i read the title i read it fully in the style Angelina would read it.
SnazzJaz
SnazzJaz پیش 2 ماه
As a gamer and fan of KPOP/Vocaloid/Anime, I'll say that this really isn't as bad as some people think it will be. The way I see it, Aespa have their own sentient AI counterparts who live in a separate video-game like utopian universe (at least until Black Mamba shows up, who I believe will be male based on the silhouette from the end of the MV). The avatars will probably have their own holograms for concerts, as well as their own activities and fan service segments. I feel like the worst case scenario will be if: A. Red Velvet gets pushed aside for this group B. Perverts start making Rule 34 of the AI girls and/or the actual human girls (I'd rather have the AI lewded than the actual girls tho bc they're just 3D models)
Blas_de_lezo
Blas_de_lezo پیش 2 ماه
the whole "waiting for" doesnt add up. Wonyoung in izone (not that long ago) debuted with 14...
Truskawka Poziomka
Truskawka Poziomka پیش 2 ماه
Aespa debuted now and they don't have eddie, but in aespa is giselle
Emilie D
Emilie D پیش 2 ماه
I really like the thoughts you are sharing that's so interesting you are really digin deep into the subject so thank yoouu
Do Na
Do Na پیش 2 ماه
It ain’t that deep. Everyone so negative lol.
Bts Bts
Bts Bts پیش 2 ماه
the photographers being plagiarized for this didn't get paid. it's just annoying that this is their promo strategy
Farhana Azmi
Farhana Azmi پیش 2 ماه
All the AI members have bigger boobs than the human members. I already can tell the AI will be hypersexualized especially when Soo Man said “you can make the AI do whatever you want.”
Reghan Funderburk
Reghan Funderburk پیش 2 ماه
It kinda reminds me K/DA. Don’t think there’s a problem with AI inherently.
Illary Carrión
Illary Carrión پیش 2 ماه
Damn, in my times the closest I could get to my faves was downloading the live wallpapers of all the members of SNSD on 2013, i think...
Ceylan
Ceylan پیش 2 ماه
Me an Orbit at 8:20-8:29 : 🙃
Lesley Black Velvet
Lesley Black Velvet پیش 2 ماه
Love Live?
Kai Kim
Kai Kim پیش 2 ماه
I doubt people are gonna stop listening to red velvet.
Chae rinnae
Chae rinnae پیش 2 ماه
I'm afraid sm will throw red velvet away just like f(x)
其Fanfictory
其Fanfictory پیش 2 ماه
I don’t think it was the scandal that caused them to prepare for debut now since there were hints at the end of some SM artists music videos preparing for aespa. They wouldn’t wait 7 mouths after those hints and then announce the group so it might not be rushed. Also, It’s better if they made the aespa AI versions do the online activities like when they have events or small performances and have the real members do things offline (not sure if you get it)
Kylee_ kpoplover
Kylee_ kpoplover پیش 2 ماه
The Hongjoong fishy fishy like, I can't 🤣🤣🤣
Derpy Derpstein
Derpy Derpstein پیش 2 ماه
Me and my zepeto character:
angelic
angelic پیش ماه
Fr
SUNGHOON'S
SUNGHOON'S پیش 2 ماه
Aren't the ai just gonna be like holograms which didn't really exist, i mena not real robot?
Sarah Loulou
Sarah Loulou پیش 2 ماه
When he have the same biases from exo..
Juan Alfonso
Juan Alfonso پیش 2 ماه
aespa sounds like a deodorant brand
angelic
angelic پیش ماه
LOL
gowon minaj
gowon minaj پیش 2 ماه
honestly i just feel uneasy cause the ai said they know abt everything abt them like what ew
ICECONE
ICECONE پیش 2 ماه
Not to be that girl but KDA already did this honey it’s note a unique idea SM
Kala }
Kala } پیش 2 ماه
I'm sorry but, I just know these AI's are gonna be trouble.... I'm praying they don't take Red Velvet away from us.
The Danish Darling
The Danish Darling پیش 2 ماه
I personally don't like it, and it kind of ruined my excitement for the group. Now I'm just going to see how it goes, and if it's as bad as it so easily can be, but I probably won't actively look into the group like I usually do.
The Danish Darling
The Danish Darling پیش 2 ماه
@idk what agah Glad you like it, but I still don't like the avatar concept and it still somewhat destroyes my overall excitement for the group, but it is a decent song, their vocals seems nice and all, but overall the song is not anything that particularly grabs my attention or that I love, it's just fine. But perhaps their next song will be something I would enjoy more.
idk what agah
idk what agah پیش 2 ماه
It was amazing
Jackie
Jackie پیش 2 ماه
FINALLY SOME "WHAT IS LOVE" APPRECIATION!! :)
Kammie Smith
Kammie Smith پیش 2 ماه
I just listened to "What is love," by Exo. It is the best as you said!!
cata zoe
cata zoe پیش 2 ماه
this just feels very weird, creepy and dehumanizing ??? and idk call me boomer but I personally don't see the appeal in art made by robots
Random potato
Random potato پیش 2 ماه
SM totally missed the point of K/DA. The minute you merge the worlds of AI and human, you are setting humans up against the unrealistic and limitless potentials of AI. Whereas in K/DA's case, the virtual characters do not interact with their real life counterparts. (example, do interviews with them, take pictures with them, etc)
HOPIYEOL
HOPIYEOL پیش 2 ماه
or weird timing.... like could you predict tomorrow? i'm pretty sure sm had a board in the company and say this day the group will debut but oops as the world is weird a scandal..... OOOOOOOHHHH i really don't care about scandals like its so weird fans do this..... like OMW ITS BEEN 100 AND 5 DAYS SINCE SEHUN POSTED A PICTURE OR ITS BEEN 7 DAYS AND 2HRS SINCE TAEYONG WORE YELLOW...WOW OMG -_- i dont even remember what i did in a few days ...
Maikyyy
Maikyyy پیش 2 ماه
SM trainees wait for any scandal to happen so they can debute
Rafaela Ojeda
Rafaela Ojeda پیش 2 ماه
Lol there is about to be a fan war between KDA and Aespa. Lets go! Multi millionaire companies making us fight for fake people. STAN KDA.
Debbie Alex Kure
Debbie Alex Kure پیش 2 ماه
What I'm worried about is sasaeng fans will probably abuse it
my name is secret
my name is secret پیش 2 ماه
ATTENTION TO EVERYONE!! AESPA WILL DEBUT ON NOVEMBER 17, 6PM KST WITH SONG "BLACK MAMBA" AS A SUPPORTERS I WANT TO BREAK THE RECORD OF MOST VIEW DEBUT KPOP SONG IN 24 HRS WHICH IS " 17 OR 18 POINT SOMETHING MILLION " I HOPE WE CAN DO IT FOR OUR GIRLS!! CAN WE MAKE 20M AT THE FIRST 24HRS?? CAN WE?? STAN AESPA!!! LET'S STREAM!!! * ALL SM STANS HERE EXO L , REVELUV , SONES & ETC. HELP OUR NEW GIRLS!
허니 버터밀크Honey Buttermilk
To make this situation clear - SM Entertainment is back and s****ing K-Pop artists but there's nothing we can do about it. There a high tier company that could sue your whole family and has sh*t loads of money. The girls don't deserve to be treated like people who work beside robots, they came here to be like SNSD not Hatsune Miku. And I would be disturbed if someone bought a digital copy of me-
mr k
mr k پیش 2 ماه
By giving the sasaeng a virtual idol would make the real idol safer because the sasaeng wouldn't go stalking the idol, big brain there
agnat
agnat پیش 2 ماه
am i the only one that thinks it’s cool asf
Iris Sólarljóma Jacobsen
another thing i hate is the fact that they are using the letter 'æ' .. in my country we do not pronounce it like they do in any way and its so annoying !! 😔
angelic
angelic پیش ماه
?
lee uwu
lee uwu پیش 2 ماه
the funky transition sound makes me flinchsjajkdsjkd
Caramel female
Caramel female پیش 2 ماه
I don’t know much about these girls but they have my fully support. I encourage, support and love them all the way. I wish them the best and can’t wait to hear their music.
FreshRainbow
FreshRainbow پیش 2 ماه
So actually they are just K/DA
John Smith
John Smith پیش 2 ماه
ok good I also thought vespa
Fátima ArMarques
Fátima ArMarques پیش 2 ماه
To be honest the moment I saw the teasers I couldn't tell this new group was from SM. It looks (to me) pretty underwhelming. I'm used to be MINDBLOWN by SM artists and this just didn't . I'm curious is this the group mentioned by SM to debut and said to become the "NEW EXO" but with girls? Honestly for me it's a no. These girls must've been training for at least 3 to 4 years, heard the rapper and she's got it how dare SM to actually make them share it with AI idols? No. Just no. Can't change my mind. I hope the REAL girls rise up well cuz sounds just ridiculous AI Hatsune Miku has gone Kpop... Just...*sighs*
Sand Storm
Sand Storm پیش 2 ماه
For me this whole thing feels like a bad Black Mirror episode.
lululuna videos
lululuna videos پیش 2 ماه
Personally i dont really see that much benefit... the avatars dont look like the idols really that much (if anything they “”fixed”” their flaws, making their heads much smaller, legs longer, perfect physique, um why) and its not like fans can somehow interact with the idol through the avatar virtually... so to me as a consumer, i dont see the appeal of avatars. Maybe for branding but id rather see a real person recommending me a brand than an avatar
Cathleen
Cathleen پیش 2 ماه
I understand about why people feel conflicted about this, and I'm also worried for the members' future mental health because they may become insecure and start comparing themselves with their characters. BUT. This kind of thing has been around for a long time, in the world of vtubing. The only differences are probably the fact that aespa's members show their real faces and that the members and their characters have seperate minds. From what I see, vtubers are quite happy with their job, so for me if the aespa members enjoy doing their job then it's all okay and we should just support them. I pray they do not compare themselves to these models and that they will be successful.
moonchildx
moonchildx پیش 2 ماه
I honestly don't know if these is a smart move or a crazy move, some fans are sometimes forgetting idols are humans as well and that's why I think it's a crazy move to do, but at the same time having an ai can really garner a lot of attention and that's why I think it's a genius move.
sofia_ autumnn
sofia_ autumnn پیش 2 ماه
I'm with you about fans forgetting idols are humans as well
LOVE YOURSELF
LOVE YOURSELF پیش 2 ماه
ITS NOT INTERESTING ITS DEHUMANIZING
milky _clutz
milky _clutz پیش 2 ماه
it's literally like K/DA
Brian Westfield
Brian Westfield پیش 2 ماه
Oh noes, Red Velvet is disbanding 🥺
the free loader btw I'm a girl
Please Angelina react to 'Photo Magic' of Kaachi they have improved but I just want your opinion on their mv. Would appreciate if you do!
Twilight Sparkle
Twilight Sparkle پیش 2 ماه
I think of it being like the real members being themselves and then having avatar sidekicks alongside them (like in game) to help them navigate the world of kpop. But honestly I have no idea what they’re doing - that’s just what I’d like them to do cuz it would be cool and less weird.
Twilight Sparkle
Twilight Sparkle پیش 2 ماه
SM had always hinted that they were gonna release the group in November this year tho, cuz I’ve been hearing stuff since January... so I don’t think they’d push it back just because of this scandal. I mean they did release red velvet in amidst a scandals for the company as well. But I think it’s more coincidence - like they plan groups for a certain date - they get scandals, but they don’t put it off despite that. Because they know people eat up their artists content anyways
April Mendez
April Mendez پیش 2 ماه
I always had issue with the rumor of bot debuting Yeri cause she would’ve only been 15 because they debuted krystal and Sulli at 15, taemin at 15, and Changmin at 15. Hell Jisung was 14 when he debuted in NCT DreamI’ve never thought it was a solid argument for adding her later on. I love Yeri tho and I’m glad she’s in the group I just... think it’s an excuse from sm
chuuchu
chuuchu پیش 2 ماه
I really think this whole AI concept is so creepy. Kpop has a huge problem with sasaengs. If this stuff about the hotel is true, and also taking into account what LSM said about celebrity interactions, then that's just feeding into the delusion that fans truly know their idol and just fuels inappropriate behavior. We shouldn't be encouraging this sort of stuff. Way too many people already feel entitled to celebrities' private life, we should be fighting against that. And just look at the weird shit people say/think about Vocaloids, who are 100% fictional. Also, imagine the body image issues that the members could have as a result of this. The avatars are supposed to be a representation of these girls, yet they have unrealistic body proportions and revealing clothing that the irl members don't have. Personally I don't think animated characters having unrealistic appearances is an issue, but unless the members themselves designed the characters that way (And I mean actually chose to make them look that way, instead being shown a picture and agreeing to it), it could end up really damaging. And they're already debuting in an industry where groups literally have a visual position for who's the prettiest. Getting hate for your appearance is one thing, but it's an entirely different thing to be compared to an avatar that's supposed to be another version of you. At the moment I just don't see this turning out well, but I hope it's all just a huge misunderstanding.
Amiel Pejana
Amiel Pejana پیش 2 ماه
that RIOT introduced in KDA!, KDA is the first virtual girl group the members are MIYEON and SOYEON FROM (G)I-DLE, MADISON BEER AND JAIRA BURNS
ƧΛΣKKIΣ
ƧΛΣKKIΣ پیش 2 ماه
SeeU and UNI be like: ☺
ggsooyoun
ggsooyoun پیش 2 ماه
You guys......Jisung is no longer SMs maknae
JHANE u
JHANE u پیش 2 ماه
Why does SM always tried to cover up their scandals by debuting a group, the same with rv to fx😔, then now its aespa to rv.....
JHANE u
JHANE u پیش 2 ماه
Why does SM always tried to cover up their scandals by debuting a group, the same with rv to fx😔
쌈자배트맨
쌈자배트맨 پیش ماه
They cover up debuting groups by scandals of other groups. You might be confused.
Aria Antoinette ritcherson
Yeah, creating and debuting a new gŕoup to distract fans from controversies is a bit of a stretch honestly. Ya it may look suspicious to some because they're debuting them around the same time of certain drama but it's not that easy to form a group, they planned this way before the controversies started and they just so happened to debut around this time.
iiMusa
iiMusa پیش 2 ماه
SM took a look at K/DA and saw profit.
Jongin was 19 when he did this
Can we send EXO's avatars to the military instead of the members?
Lucas S.M.
Lucas S.M. پیش 2 ماه
JUST found out this channel and I'm already lovening everthing about it! Keep the good work!! ;)
Jana Gainer
Jana Gainer پیش 2 ماه
not gonna lie im so excited for aespa but i think the AI trend thing will probably die down and also they will take a long time to edit the whole thing and it would cost a lot of money, and we would probably have a very longtime to wait for comebacks
Emely Velez
Emely Velez پیش 2 ماه
SM has established a pattern. Now that there is a new girl group, Red Velvet is not their main priority anymore which means fewer comebacks. It happens every time. Also, when idols say or do things that seem more personal to their fans it honestly makes me uncomfortable, lmao. More so because this is their job and they're putting up their public persona, to be nice and to keep a positive appearance towards their fans, etc. I hate that the companies make them do things like this and in turn creates delusional fans and become something that the idol finds hard to deal with when it goes as far as stalking, hacking, etc.
Paul Biu
Paul Biu پیش 2 ماه
It’s bluring the lines and elevating the idols to god status even more then they already are it’s gonna cause so many problems and it seems as if this whole concept is just lee sooman’s attempt a making his company stay relevant in these times wich I think will inevitably fail no hate to the members but I think it will flop or just cause so much backlash ...
MHS
MHS پیش 2 ماه
the AI literally pisses me off so much. Sm legit just wants KDA aesthetic but unfortunately the AI look like uncanny IMVU characters. I hate it.
Em
Em پیش 2 ماه
It seems to be Sm entertainment thing to try to cover up scandals with debuts. Red velvet suddenly debuted when Jessica was removed from snsd, and now it seems Aespa is debuting when Red Velvet is in the middle of a scandal. I don't think this is as rushed as Red velvets debut Happiness, I think they were planning on debuting them around January anyway. They also tend to let go of the theme after a couple of music videos, like Exo's universe and super powers. I thought they were going to start releasing video games with the AI as characters. I thought that would be cool, I hope it doesn't go darker than that.
p00niK
p00niK پیش 2 ماه
i mean.,., k/da doin pretty well BUT theyre........ characters?? from a gAMe?!@?1/
Greg Mark
Greg Mark پیش 2 ماه
Good call. I hadn't even heard of aespa until yesterday -- when I was reading Koreapoo about the red velvet "scandal". The alleged "scandal" struck me as completely stupid, but as an aside, I noticed that EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE was covered in references to other articles -- ALL of them about aespa. It's no coincidence.
ARMYS that ORBITS around CARATS are WIZ*ONES
I- hold on, I think y'all are just making stupid assumptions about the AI members. I think they are just going to be there like K/DA you know maybe as props on live stages or maybe since they're interactive, they'll be on some shows with the members. Anyways, I think this is revolutionary. I mean we've NEVER seen such a concept before. I'm excited.
Tom's Music Corner
Tom's Music Corner پیش 2 ماه
I always wonder how people think of a diversionary tactic because of the timing. Does anyone really believe that in a single week you announce a group and reveal the concept? Of course, the whole thing has been prepared months in advance. That in the back of your mind somehow takes away the legitimacy of this supposed drama of distracting from Irene's "scandal". Just saying.
someone
someone پیش 2 ماه
I hope sm or "fans" won't end up comparing the the real members with ai members
Agus Djaja
Agus Djaja پیش 2 ماه
when the AI chart higher in individual popularity rank than the human counterpart. That what I love to see
K_U
K_U پیش 2 ماه
I kinda feel like this whole hotel idea on the 25th floor will attract sasaengs like a magnet...:/
Estherrr
Estherrr پیش 2 ماه
SM is the worst company. i said what i said:)))
donny •
donny • پیش 2 ماه
i think neo culture technology is pretty obnoxious lol
Ald M
Ald M پیش 2 ماه
Personally, i dont think the AI version is literally an AI, to make an AI act like an actual person would be hard and expensive, it's just a gimmick, they are like a skin in a game, SM maybe wanted to follow Japan's lead on virtual idols (search it up), maybe in the future they would want to hold virtual concerts or something like that using the AE version as avatars through body tracking or something
xMaccy
xMaccy پیش 2 ماه
I think everyone is looking to deep, Sm is smart that doesn't means evil nor good, what they do is take the scandals in their advance. Maybe with redvelvet debut they did try to cover up the issue but in a smart way, because they have already attention in the company so they get it as opportunity to gain more audience. The difference is that as much of an issue Irene haves, is not a threat to the industry as what happened with exo, like since Kris issue a lot of other groups started to have contract problems (publicly) and scandals, even Sm itself. So as bad as it sound i think it maybe a coincidence bc sm is ready to move on the next gen. as bad as it hurt my heart, Exo and RV are not they priority anymore. And about the AI well its the same as Zepeto (?) like lots of fans already used that things so this is just the next step of technology, that is gonna get as far as the public consumes it. But what can I say, I'm old so lol.
Isabel Atanacio
Isabel Atanacio پیش 2 ماه
Actually, in RV debut MV, there were Easter eggs of trainees that were hidden in the intro. So I remember at that time, fans like me, were thinking this group might have a rotational concept and members might be added later. Yeri addition wasn’t super shocking to me since I kinda expected it. Similar to what LSM wanted to do with Suju and then later achieved with NCT. I think they added Yeri and got so much hate so they decided to stop and just continue as 5.
Isabel Atanacio
Isabel Atanacio پیش 2 ماه
And I’ve been following SMNGG tag on Twitter for a while and everyone was literally waiting every Monday for news about debut. Even before Irene scandal, we new debut was really near, most likely nov. It was just bad timing with the scandal and not a cover up. Also, don’t be surprised if Aespa adds new members soon
Archie Cruz
Archie Cruz پیش 2 ماه
Boutique is pronounced boo-teek.
orange june
orange june پیش 2 ماه
tbh i think sm is not wrong for this, its a good marketing tactic to make u feel connected with ur idols. BUT i think overall, saesangs are a broader, mental health problem. korea is extremely conservative, and looking down on mental illness is no exception.
Keira jenner
Keira jenner پیش 2 ماه
I think SM has been watching too many black mirror episodes. I feel like one of the episode from the black mirror show.
boi
boi پیش 2 ماه
It wouldn't be the first kpop AI thing, this may be another seeu attempt. (Even though i think that was actually bighit?). The same argument of over sexualization comes up here portientially as it does for vocaloids, except this time its realistic? Im a bit confused lol
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