Let's Talk about Lisa on "Youth With You" | Rude? Mean? 

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Lisa's mentor role on "YouthWithYou 青春有你2" is quite polarizing and I've been asked quite a bit to talk about it, so let's do it.
She is a dance mentor on this show, and portrays a very different side of herself. Though there is a lot of support for her, there is of course backlash as well.
Many people are quick to call her "mean" or "rude" or "scary" and though I wouldn't want to invalidate the way anyone feels, the majority of the time, these things can be boiled down to a double standard.
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GG Dragon
GG Dragon پیش 20 روز
I call it funny
Strange Annie
Strange Annie پیش 21 روز
No matters that is a female or male idol, I always gonna be afraid for the strict dance mentors.
Lois Amoako
Lois Amoako پیش ماه
I know blackpink will just break apart bcs of Lisa she is such a jealous brat
William King
William King پیش ماه
So I’ve seen a ton of people complain about how she’s being mean but until you yourself have actually taken a dance class you have No idea what mean is. Dance teachers were ent to earth from hell. My dance teacher has told me to just kill my self before bc I’m never going to be good at anything.
Berber پیش ماه
I went to an acting school that had a dance department and from my experience there, the way Lisa acts is very normal in the dancing world. Instructors are just very to the point because that’s how dancers learn
The scary cat
The scary cat پیش ماه
let's say she sugarcoat them they debut and they see negative comments, or, one of them mess up and the media bash them. they will thing "wow, when I was with my mentor she said this was fine", they will not be ready to take those comments.
Sarah 1998
Sarah 1998 پیش 2 ماه
I really like your opinion it's very perspective
Nazareth پیش 2 ماه
I think the people complaining never had a coach of any kind, Lisa being stern isn't being rude .
blu orangeade
blu orangeade پیش 2 ماه
ik that this video was made like forever ago and no one cares anymore but if y’all think lisa is being rude, y’all clearly haven’t *ever* been in a dance class. this is coming from someone who has been training in ballet with strict teachers for ten years. y’all my teacher brought out a hecking *cane* and said she was going to hit us if we didn’t do it right. it is ballet, so it’s very traditional, and, of course, she didn’t hit anyone, but she was *very strict*
nayla پیش 2 ماه
lol when i was on cheerleading our coach used to literally cuss us out and curse and yell so much, like i know it shouldn’t be normalized but people who said lisa was rude or strict clearly aren’t dancers/athletes
Prateeksha Vikas
Prateeksha Vikas پیش 2 ماه
they have not seen the show,they do not know that she was strict because she wanted them to do better. At the end they all thanked Lisa for being their mentor.
twirlygirl 07
twirlygirl 07 پیش 2 ماه
Honestly, as a professional ballet dancer and someone who has trained rigorously at prestigious ballet schools for years, I have to say that there is a difference between being constructive and strict, and being unnecessarily rude or hurtful. Of course she shouldn’t be too nice either, but when the pendulum swings too far the other way it can certainly cause problems and sometimes impede improvement. Just because it is incredibly common for mentors to be hurtful doesn’t make it okay or productive. If you look at Russian/vaganova-trained ballerinas, for example, sure they are incredible, but at what cost? Surely the price of excellence should not include trauma. By the way, I am not at all insinuating that Lisa was being mean or traumatizing. I do think she should have worded certain things differently to sound less condescending, however I understand that she is not entirely fluent in English and that she was trained in a very harsh way, so that may be all she knows. Anyway I certainly have major respect for her as an artist and a dancer!♥️
Auzeen Tashnizi
Auzeen Tashnizi پیش 3 ماه
Can you pleeeasssewe make a podcast?
Auzeen Tashnizi
Auzeen Tashnizi پیش 3 ماه
I feel like her persona on that show was really fake.
koo koo
koo koo پیش 3 ماه
Clearly you guys never watched Dance Moms
mukbang me
mukbang me پیش 3 ماه
I think she’s strategically being strict to prepare the trainees for the perfectionistic nature of the industry.
athanasiaa پیش 3 ماه
The people calling her rude have probably NEVER been in an actual dance class. I remember my first one, I ran to the corner and cried only in the first 20 minutes.
Tushar Kapoor
Tushar Kapoor پیش 3 ماه
What you said is point. She was not rude, she want them to be perfect, come on common sense. But antifan burrrrrr.....
Tommy Tafoya
Tommy Tafoya پیش 3 ماه
now imagine if that was cheetah let that sink in
Chicken Little
Chicken Little پیش 3 ماه
If y'all think she's rude my dance mentor slapped one of my classmates because she keep messing up and that dance mentor always cursed at us if we didn't get it the dance Lisa's is an angel compared to my old dance mentor.
Fadhili Olela
Fadhili Olela پیش 4 ماه
first you started with jennie and now your into lisa. i think your been to harsh on them
Sófis !
Sófis ! پیش 4 ماه
People complaining have never had a dance teacher periodt
Sara Tadros
Sara Tadros پیش 4 ماه
Have y’all seen Gordon Ramsey? She is such an angle compared to him but they both frickin put their time and actually be there for those who are learning and needing help!
Alessia b
Alessia b پیش 4 ماه
I think that a lot of people judged ger and called her rude or mean because they had sren those few clips of her being strict and I think that's wrong. In fact if they watched the whole program ( or even just thr first episodes) they would see her as a passionate and kind mentour too. In many instances she gave constructive advice to the trainees and answered their perplexities. Also she gave a lot of compliments to the trainees and valued their efforts ( for example there was one time when she criticed a trainee for her fancing skills, she admitted her mistake and comolimented her when. The trainee ssid that she had been training in dancing only for 2 months). Also since the beginning she sympathized woth the trainees, telling them that she too was a trsinee and faced difficulties, so she knew how hard it was to leave their families for their dream. Sorry for the long monologue bit I think that was necessary to make clear that the trainees didn't fear her or didn't like her, but they respected her and trusted her advice.
Alessia b
Alessia b پیش 4 ماه
Give her a ted talk already💕
Gloria پیش 4 ماه
tbh i think this is more just that Lisa is thai and english isn't her mother tongue, so maybe she got the denotation but not the connotation of what she was saying and didn't realize that it could be seen as mean
smthswtt پیش 4 ماه
I hate to be that person but if she was a man y'all would praise her for being professional. Also haters are so hypocrite, they hate when she's being goofy/cute because it's *cringey* AND they hate when she's being serious 💀 like, just say you hate the girl and move on with your life 😒
레몬ArmySunFlower پیش 4 ماه
Wait where is the link to watch it I can't seem to find it?
leighsbyulie پیش 4 ماه
she was just correcting things, i think it came across as rude because the trainees are chinese and most of them dont know much english - she was just being straightforward.
LXD_fox_BG پیش 4 ماه
She is kind whith her fans and black pink but not in youth whith you
rylaicrystalmaiden03 پیش 5 ماه
Watch reality TVs from YG (ikontv, 2ne1tv, winnertv) and you'll notice Lisa somehow resembles YG when judging/watching their performances. Maybe YG is a bit extreme, hmmm, maybe BI to Ikon..
rylaicrystalmaiden03 پیش 5 ماه
This is where I liked Lisa. I like her more stern and serious, and not cute. Like when she is dancing (in her YT page).
like mate, stop procrastinating
I’m a weak bitch and I wanna cry every time someone raises their voice or looks like they’re angry but I really respect the way Lisa mentored the girls.
like mate, stop procrastinating
I remember seeing someone compare the idol mentors on youth with you (cheng xiao, kyulkyung, minghao and lisa). They mentioned how Minghao happened to be the kindest mentor, Kyulkyung and Cheng Xiao were a bit too strict and Lisa was also strict but not that strict. While going through that post I started wondering if it had anything to do with the way they were trained by their respective companies. Do you think that maybe mentors are harsher on the female trainees than the male trainees? I could be wrong but the main thing that made me think of this was Lisa’s “I told you to smile” clip. (like women are expected to smile so that they look pleasant and female idols tend to get hate if they have an rbf or if they look too cold)
Ashish Mukhiya
Ashish Mukhiya پیش 5 ماه
Who are u to say lisa like that
Sama Dadash
Sama Dadash پیش 5 ماه
She’s not being rude she’s being strict, if she sugar cotes everything the trainees won’t listen to her.
margs !!!
margs !!! پیش 5 ماه
yall think thats rude? a director threw a chair at us while rehearsing if yall think lisa is rude then wtf is my director's behavior
JENNIELOVEBOT 1996 پیش 5 ماه
She was kinda rude but I like it
MCReaction kpop
MCReaction kpop پیش 5 ماه
I hasnt seen the video before this, I saw the original video after watching yours and honestly I don’t think she was anywhere near rude. I think she was just being the role she was giving as a mentor/teacher. I don’t know if it’s because of the way I grew up and the teachers I had but honestly she kinda warmed my heart. I didn’t see it as mean and angry but just straightforward and you can tell she didn’t mean it as a negative thing but more as her wanting to help them rather than bringing them down. In the clip where the girl kept messing up and she apologizes to the other trainees and they say back to her that “it’s okay, let’s practice together” you can tell that Lisa was touched by that.
M • A • R • I • L • Y • N
omg this is why i love angelina😂😭
September Sreya
September Sreya پیش 5 ماه
She was a good dance mentor 😌☺💖no matter what happens I will always love my Lisa 😌💖☺🖤
A Random Hot Trashcan
A Random Hot Trashcan پیش 5 ماه
I like the Lisa mentors the trainees and you should know that Lisa and the trainees are getting along well. I have to admit that I'm quite sensitive and i would probably cry when she talked to me that way but i like her that way
Jaida Holliman
Jaida Holliman پیش 5 ماه
Some of the phrases she uses come off rude or harsh but I don’t think that’s what she intended to come off as she just wants them to get better
Gen 0231
Gen 0231 پیش 5 ماه
found this in watch later playlist
Yoonmin Thrives
Yoonmin Thrives پیش 5 ماه
She’s not being rude, people are really trying to really find an excuse to be mean to her. Think about it,if she’s all nice and let’s their mistakes pass, they’re never going to get better. She’s doing great, and doing exactly what she is supposed to be doing. And I get why some people think she’s being rude, maybe her words seems harsh but I think it might also be the fact that English isn’t her first language.
STAN KPOP•-• پیش 6 ماه
Shes not rude shes just being strict so that the trainees will listen to her *And if Lisa is rude then i'm adopted*
Ronaldo Tropel
Ronaldo Tropel پیش 6 ماه
dont call her Rude she is just doing her job to impress peoples and make them happy
Opinionated Matt
Opinionated Matt پیش 6 ماه
BQueen پیش 6 ماه
She's there to critique and correct them. This is how all dance teachers act when you keep doing the move wrong, don't smile, etc.
Reinor San Juan
Reinor San Juan پیش 6 ماه
exodus پیش 6 ماه
Tbh my first thought was that she was told to act that way from a business point of view they wanted to be the talk of the town and it was personally I think some of her remarks were unnecessary or her words choice wasn't good Nd tbh I didn't find " I told you to smile why didn't you smile" funny cauz I believe something as facial expressions are subjective and shouldn't be choreographed like everyone embody and express the dance diffrently
G A C H A _ D E V I
G A C H A _ D E V I پیش 6 ماه
Lisa said:my mentor when I was a trainee is strict. Staff:are you a perfectionist? Lisa:ohhh mhm,yeah I am a perfectionist Lisa is just doing her job the trainee's will not improve she said her mentor before is strict and look where is she now
Mya Ø'Cønnell
Mya Ø'Cønnell پیش 6 ماه
i danced at a dance studio for 10 years of my life and everything she is doing is 100% right. our teachers had to be strict on us so our performance at competitions were great and not half assed. some kpop stans are just over sensitive :/
mintdolly پیش 6 ماه
I mean English also isn't her first language. She frequently uses her 1st language or switches to English if that's more comfortable, but the entire show is in Chinese. I don't know if they use translators on the side, but I mean especially when she says, "Whats wrong with you" I think we always think it's immediately bad, but she said it more in a way that's like "What's wrong with your movements and you have to get this down." She is a mentor and has to prepare them for the music industry which is brutal. She's probably been scolded waaay worse growing up in dance and training in Blackpink. I mean these girls are training to be in a career SHE'S in and we all know they needed some guidance to get rid of bad habits.
a win
a win پیش 6 ماه
10:46 - where's the lie??
Partham Gurung
Partham Gurung پیش 6 ماه
Yes she is not being rude she is just teaching other girls i think she is being little strect
y پیش 6 ماه
Let me be honest,: dude yall hater are being 100000000% too sensitive like Lisa just punch one of the trainee. She just being strict so that she can correct the mistakes made by the trainee easily. Being so soft (not strict; the Lilisa we know) sometimes doesn't show her mentor profile. WHAT KIND OF MENTOR THAT JUST SAY "no~ you're doing it wrongly~" WHAT KIND OF MENTOR IS THAT??? smh. my broken english though
Farah Noorjahan
Farah Noorjahan پیش 6 ماه
Farah Noorjahan
Farah Noorjahan پیش 3 ماه
@Pragya Bhushan it was-it was sarcasm but okay 😔🤚
Poetrysope پیش 6 ماه
I'm not a blink but when I saw her on the program I was like sjjsksksisksjs honestly made me want to stan (but I hate yg anyway), the point is if I didn't know the issues of the company and everything I would definitely go check all of her discography. I absolutely loved her attitude, I think everything she said was relevant and helpful for the trainees
that random blink benedicto
if jennie did this she will get bashed
Rina Yerten
Rina Yerten پیش 6 ماه
Bruhhh I think u just don't like lisa
Sara Ibarra
Sara Ibarra پیش 6 ماه
I think she sees and knows that they have talent..... she is being a mom yo
• lucia.teardropz
• lucia.teardropz پیش 6 ماه
If lisa yelled at me i would've started crying
Hellissou xg
Hellissou xg پیش 6 ماه
As a dancer I can say she's a great mentor and I'd be happy to have a teacher like that
Salma Marìa
Salma Marìa پیش 6 ماه
I think Lisa was a great mentor because not only was she serious, strict and unforgiving about mistakes but she also would gratify the trainees with a smile and clap them and encourage them when she saw improvement And in my opinion that's on being a great teacher
Yasmina Sader
Yasmina Sader پیش 6 ماه
Hi angelina hope ur having a great day, I really want to get this problem out! But I know I can’t do if you could do a video about it it would be great!! While I was watching blackpinks new comeback I noticed their was a lot of resemblance with more n more, there was the move at the end of momos part after tzuyu, in the 2nd chorus you can spot it, they are both in a jungle with flowery/ jungely clothes, and blackpink used another makeup artist as an « inspiration » for jennies flame eyes things, I’m sorry if I’m bothering you but this needs to be said, they copied and it’s a thing that we can’t accept Thank you for reading this Have a great day ❤️
Lot Prakke
Lot Prakke پیش 6 ماه
The people who think lisa is a rude dance teacher clearly have never been in a russian ballet class. Ballerina’s will understand lol
宇宙 پیش 6 ماه
sararubicubi پیش 6 ماه
I feel bad when an authority figure scolds me but at the same time if I go on a dance class and I feel like it's not strict enough I get bored
AbEt PlaToN
AbEt PlaToN پیش 6 ماه
Them: *LiSa iS sOo rUde aNd sTricT* Me: gurl it's clear that you didn't watch dance moms
Glam with Ash
Glam with Ash پیش 6 ماه
Lol lisa is not rude she just want trainee to dance like a professional:) sorry for bad eng
Chasity Holmes
Chasity Holmes پیش 6 ماه
She just wants them to succeed they will have to go against thousands or even millions of girls to get into a girl group she’s strict she had to go against a lot of girls just to get into Blackpink so she knows how it feels she had to work day and night
katelyn nguyen
katelyn nguyen پیش 7 ماه
people are forgetting that other idols made “harsh” constructive criticism as mentors but those comments helped the trainees. for example on the unit, the mentors were honest, and some of it came off as “rude” but it was helpful. Yeosang from super junior also said some “harsh” comments on under 19, but that pushed them to work harder. these mentors are just being honest and trying to help them flourish in a competitive industry
Sonal Chikodi
Sonal Chikodi پیش 7 ماه
Bruh she is mentor for a reason if mentors act like there friends they won't ever improve.
Sunflowers And Roses
Sunflowers And Roses پیش 7 ماه
She's being rude anyone can tell not only by her choice of words and tone of voice but by her face expressions and body language too. Stop trying to justify her bad cocky attitude 😰🤷
aneeqa fayyaz
aneeqa fayyaz پیش 7 ماه
People are not gonna point out good things about her as a mentor, the moments whenever a trainee would do good or a group performs well she would literally smile and jump like a little baby but no.. people's always have to point out bad things... That's what happens when you are way better and famous with a huge talent in ur hands that's the things with her.. People are jealous that's it..
Destany Marie
Destany Marie پیش 7 ماه
The only reason why she’s being so strict is because she trying to push them to be better so it’s obvious she gonna be a little ya know rough on them it is a competition at the end of the day
stan mamamoo
stan mamamoo پیش 7 ماه
people who are upset have never been to a dance studio
Lynzey Bataller
Lynzey Bataller پیش 7 ماه
Lisa is being professional right blinks ☺☺
Sheleena Grace
Sheleena Grace پیش 7 ماه
Ya Angelina.Before that lisa usually talk in sweet voice and nicely but in this show she be rude to them.that seems to fake.I know why she is being like that. before that she was been cute because to be more popular and favouritism.
Felmarge Go
Felmarge Go پیش 7 ماه
IRitem is so weird. This video was uploaded like a month ago and I already watched it but I still got a notification 😂😂
Sofia c
Sofia c پیش 7 ماه
She keeps a calm voice and says proper things (definitely not mean) she is the incredibly calm and nice compared to any other dance mentor I have met. Did you guys notice they gave her "stern woman" make up? Normally idols make up makes them look all soft as if permanently making love eyes but they gave her boss make up... I am not saying it is only a reaction to the make up but it was definitely premeditated the way they portrayed her.
Weebbitch .,
Weebbitch ., پیش 7 ماه
Is it bad im a blink 😂😂
Weebbitch .,
Weebbitch ., پیش 7 ماه
I’m so disappointed 😭 but I still love her ❤️💖🥰😂
Yuridia Roman
Yuridia Roman پیش 7 ماه
2:55 no its not just you 😭
William Meran
William Meran پیش 7 ماه
As a dancer i get cuss out a lot But that is because i made a mistake and cant do it right and i dont mind being swear at cus at the end of the day You will not improve if you cant accept the truth even if its feel bad Its hard to explain but as for me who just join training to certain street groups and gets cursed and getd the strictest criticism Then as for lisa shes getting much more like You cant be a great dancer by just receiving sugarcoat compliments Im pretty sure dancers experiences way more harsher than this But i cant blame people since some dont know what happens on things like trainings etc etc. So i understand the "woah that kinda hurts" But for me i must say Trust me thats just like the 1/4 on what dancers experiences on an every day basis Unless you're like ready and is good enough then...ye
analicia پیش 7 ماه
also the double standard thing is so true. let’s not talk about how people slutshame exid for shaking their butts like once but they drool over bts’ hip thrusts and sexualize them into oblivion. (im not generalizing armys btw, i myself am one, BUT a LOT of armys are misogynistic and attack any sexy concept female idols whilst sexualizing bts.)
analicia پیش 7 ماه
good video! btw, literally every good mentor will be hard on you. you need to get precision and perfection through your head if you want to be successful. it isn’t rude, it’s actually quite the opposite. lisa isn’t just gonna go easy and let you flop because you didn’t wanna listen to her. if you can’t handle your MENTOR being just a teensy bit intimidating, you need help. and lisa isn’t all sunshine and rainbows. she’s probably done worse things but we won’t talk about that because it doesn’t matter. just because someone is a celebrity, doesn’t mean they have to be an angel, it’s absolutely hilarious that people think the bar for celebrities must be higher than the one for us regular people. lisa probably isn’t mean in general, but even if she is, people can be mean if that’s what they want tbh, you can lecture them about the virtue of kindness or whatever but you’ll never be promised that they’ll listen. it’s good to try to stop people who malicious intent, but if you know you aren’t getting at anything then just quit it.
Kate XY
Kate XY پیش 7 ماه
Tbh if you ask me I think the show directors edit and even ask mentors to be a but extra mean. It's like they want to maintain the popularity of the show, and most of the time that works if you pull in some popular figures in entertainment. Additionally, you try to enforce the mentor authority, as if to show that participants "learn so much". Obviously everything is a lesson and I'm not doubting Lisa's teaching abilities, but I definitely think she was instructed to show a different vibe to attract attention. To think Lisa is never serious and mean is plan ignorance (girl is human like everyone and can be a bit mean or serious at times). Also to be fair the only slightly mean comment was "what's wrong with you", since it almost refers to someone personally rather than saying "you're doing this move badly". Even that comment was refering to someone not being focused in a dance practice- but when I first saw it, it was just that comment so it's easy to take it out of context and think "ooh she's mean". Otherwise I think she's just showcasing what is expected from a dance mentor- meeting the expectations of the audience as a competent dance mentor, of the trainees as a role model and mentor, and from the show producing crew as a clearly the most popular person on the show. So tbh she's doing her job in an amazing way. And no, I'm not a blink.
Tiffany Custodio
Tiffany Custodio پیش 7 ماه
she has to draw that demarcation line when it's "work time." that strict side of her actually made me respect her more as a dancer... made me think of the tough training she underwent to be the best that she is today. In as much as one can work and play, you really have to work hard first before you can mix it all up.
curly_joni پیش 7 ماه
People who haven't been taught how to dance (also music) don't know what strict means. You will cry... Lisa is a loooooottttt nicer than some of the teachers that I had.
White Tea and Peonies
White Tea and Peonies پیش 7 ماه
I don't know what 'scandal' (if that's the right word?) you had before or why you'd get a lot of hate but I find you sympathetic & enjoy watching your videos. :) I'm not super into K-Pop but I do enjoy 2NE1's music & some other songs here & there.
Felix Hercules
Felix Hercules پیش 7 ماه
She’s probably used to harsh criticism because of her own intensive training, so she expects everyone to live up to that
blckvlvttwc 2323
blckvlvttwc 2323 پیش 7 ماه
mood rn: YG what the fuck are you doing????
chungus پیش 7 ماه
you're making it look like a problem when it's not
— helena.
— helena. پیش 7 ماه
i don’t think she’s rude but i think it’s cringe when she TRIES to be mean & harsh. like idk she wants to be more bitchy and rough?
I love you Ohm
I love you Ohm پیش 7 ماه
I just think why they’re claiming Lisa as mean and rude is because she is an idol, lmao their mind definitely just says “she’s an idol, she has to be nice,” like lol not every idol you see is not what it seems, all idols in the kpop industry are not the same, some can be straightforward, some can be calm, mean, rude or a good person, you can’t tell, because you only see them in cameras, so it should not be surprising to see her act like this because first of all, she’s a mentor there, not a babysitter, there’s so many mentors out there who’s way more strict and direct than Lisa ever does. And it’s a survival show for fuck sake, if you can’t even take a constructive criticism on something you should work up for yourself, then don’t expect good results as an outcome for your whole performance.
Eliza Elise
Eliza Elise پیش 7 ماه
First of all, let’s try to remember that once upon a time, Lisa was a trainee like them as well and your experiences can really shape the way you think, the way you act, and the way you speak. She comes from a company handled by YG. Literally the guy who told idols to their faces that they were ugly and not suitable for a girl group for no reason at all except maybe to be mean. “What’s wrong with you?” “You keep messing up.” Are probably words that have been said to lisa’s face and maybe even harsher words were said to her, we’ll never know. Coupled with the pressure of being a young mentor (even younger than some of these trainees). Let’s try to understand where she’s coming from.
Sarang Sarang
Sarang Sarang پیش 7 ماه
Once I got yelled by my teacher. I was 8 yrs old. When we had a break for lunch my friend's mom called me out of the class to take my mom's number so that she can tell her to pick me up at the right time. The teacher who yelled at me thought I was trying to call my mom and tell her about how bad he behaved with me. So he called me to the classroom and ripped my test papers and told my mom that I didn't give the exams. Lisa is an angel y'all.
Sandra K
Sandra K پیش 7 ماه
Even if most of it is scripted, thats the right way she is doing it. Its not good if a dance mentor is nice all the time, that won't bring out anything good and people won't take you serious for a long time. If you think she is too rude and strict, than never audition for a good and professional dance school. I got into one when I was younger and they were even mor harsh than Lisa is now, but always praised us when we improved and did something good. It just made you want to do it more right plus BUISNESS IS HARSH, PEOPLE THERE ARE RUDE AND STRICT and if your mentors are too nice, it will be even worse if you do a buisness than with dancing, or modeling, acting or being a artist. Than you won't live long there if you even cry over lisa's way. Back then I could punch my mentors, yeah, but I am thanking them now that they made hard mess out of me that can get critizsm und works on herself all the way too until something is good and all. Thats how it is.
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