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Everglow Sihyeon Hair Comment, NCT U Shotaro Confronted at Fansign & CL on James Corden! 

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We have a lot to talk about today, such as Sihyeon from everglow and the backlash she has been receiving for a recent comment made in a video. In said video, we see the members are basically doing some type of craft, and Sihyeon then lifts these pieces of strings, with subtitles that say “It looks like reggae hair” and then she puts the strings up to her own hair. Now a lot of people took issue with the term reggae hair, claiming it stereotypes the hairstyle. While others are pointing out that it’s simply the common term in Korean for that hairstyle.
We will also discuss the accusations made towards Youngjae of GOT7, CL on the JAMES CORDEN SHOW and the backlash faced by two SM groups recently.
SuperM was accused of making colonist remarks towards Lucas. In a clip we see that the members are in a limo, and at the back of the limo, the lighting is really bad. We then see Taeyong say, “You know what’s really funny, because that side has no lighting, Lucas is quite invisible” Now many fans have expressed that this is offensive, while many fans actually came to Taeyong’s defense, saying he was talking about lighting and not skin tone, as he referenced that side having no lighting. However, others are also saying that he only pointed out Lucas, so if it was about lighting alone, he would have said we simply can’t see the members well.
And to end off, we will also talk about the backlash NCT U is facing for the poses and dances moves they did during their ending fairy for make a wish, and my friend Eshanti gave her thoughts about that, so don't forget to check out her channel!
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0:00 Intro
1:08 Sihyeon Hair Comment
2:42 Got7 Youngjae Accusations
4:37 Kpop Shenanigans
4:47 CL ON JAMES CORDEN!
5:48 Ateez Port of Call
6:43 SuperM Lucas Remarks
7:41 NCT U Ending Fairy Explained
9:36 Shotaro Confronted at Fansign

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angelina
angelina پیش 2 ماه
Subscribe to Eshanti 💕💕 bit.ly/34tvUxk UPDATE: Sihyeon recently went on a v-live and said she will study more.
Fradini RR
Fradini RR پیش 2 ماه
Glad to hear this. :)
Dawn Porter
Dawn Porter پیش 2 ماه
Got the best Internet in the world and still hearing the educate myself excuse. How many excuses do you need from a kpop industry before you consider that they aren't doing anything to improve themselves and are happy being blissfully ignorant.
Radhika Sharma
Radhika Sharma پیش 2 ماه
@Fra Don't mess with beans also another thing, i just didn't talk about this particular video here, I talked about her channel too, i dont think i have seen a video where she talks about B****p**k doing Indian CA. If she has actually made a video like that, then I think I'm misinformed or incompletely informed.
Radhika Sharma
Radhika Sharma پیش 2 ماه
@roseoznz I'm not saying that she hates them, not really, all I'm saying is that I feel she's heavily selective when it comes to talk about CA and things like that. But maybe that's my perspective. No offences.
Radhika Sharma
Radhika Sharma پیش 2 ماه
@Fra Don't mess with beans maybe I have incomplete information, coz the last time when I saw her video is when she didn't acknowledge it, and I've not followed her for long. So its possible , I will have to see her recent videos fully to understand if she has been doing what you are saying.
park chithung
park chithung پیش ماه
People r too sensitive nct friends were joking
Daniel Cooper
Daniel Cooper پیش ماه
Leave Shotaro alone plz, a fan sign isn't a good place for that.
chittaphon leechaiyapornkul
I'm desi and I personally feel the shotaro call thing was SO unnecessary he literally JUST debuted and he wasn't even the one doing it (what he was doing was just the actual choreo of the song) what is he even supposed to do after that?
hole
hole پیش 2 ماه
Can you update and tell everyone that taeyong was talking about the lighting?? People are being misinformed by this. I'm tired of everyone calling out idols for stuff they have no control over and probably didn't mean any harm. I've been into kpop for over 10 years and it's an escape for me while I lived in traumatic situations it's supposed to be fun and simple not all this shit that people grasp at to get mad. I feel second hand embarrassment for that fan who wasted their call with shotaro to say all that stuff that he has no control over. As far as I heard the translator didn't actually translate it to him so hopefully he didn't hear it
Brenda Vicuña
Brenda Vicuña پیش 2 ماه
Not a fan of nct but I know shotaro just joined the group, he is young and probably shy (from the video of them reacting to make a wish) I just feel sad for him, he was not the member to try to tell that
Tine Napayad
Tine Napayad پیش 2 ماه
For public figures, everything they do, everything they say, there's always something wrong about it for some people.. and I'm scared because those public figures, mainly artists, could lose their passion for what they do.. I may not be in others' shoe, I may not understand where you're coming from but please understand those artists who didn't mean anything bad. They may have offended some people but it's not out of being insensitive or ignorant, they're simply clueless, they might have done some things thoughtlessly but if they always calculate what they would do or say, what would it make them?
Tine Napayad
Tine Napayad پیش 2 ماه
They would seem fake and idiot(pardon my bluntness) I just hope that we could be more open minded and understanding as we raise awareness regarding some issues in a very kind and peaceful approach. We should raise awareness by enlightening and educating not attacking those who are unaware and clueless. Rather than complaining about the things we think they're doing wrong, let's just reach out and help them out. 😊 And PEACE OUT ✌️.
Suquoia
Suquoia پیش 2 ماه
On calling out or holding idols accountable, it depends on the company. With SM Ent, it's difficult because most of the time the idols are not the ones coming up with the songs or the concepts, nor do they have much of a say about it ESPECIALLY NCT. Plus, these companies don't care as much about international fans, so if anyone is gonna call out or hold these companies and/or idols accountable, its the Korean fans. Gotta find those Korean accomplices... Also, why Shotaru? Is that because of the rules of that fansign?? Dude only trained for a few months, not fluent in the language (not sure how much he knows about the customs, etc. either), and he just debuted..
Kelly Lim
Kelly Lim پیش 2 ماه
Bruh why the hell did they confront Shotaro , he LITERALLY JUST DEBUTED and hes such a pure cute little child like he can do anything ? Ugh 🤦🏻‍♀️
breadsticks
breadsticks پیش 2 ماه
just a reminder these fancalls are actually won by buying albums and the winners are chosen BEFORE nct were promoting maw, and it just so happened op won shotaro’s slot. they didn’t choose shotaro on purpose but he was promoting maw at the time and nctzens were desperate bc knctzens weren’t willing to help us out
eli conti
eli conti پیش 2 ماه
I’m sorry but fansigns are not the place to “educate” idols especially when there is a language barrier, I think fansigns are meant to be a place for you to appreciate and give as much love as possible to the person you are speaking with, because you never know what could go wrong in a 3 minute call with translators having to translate from one language to the other, you might not be able to say everything or the way it’s being translated comes across as “hating” or whatever as well as risking getting kicked out of the fansign, it just isn’t the place!
Izzy Woods
Izzy Woods پیش 2 ماه
The reggae hair thing could’ve all been avoided if the subtitler just had some cultural context. Smh
Sxshi Cafe
Sxshi Cafe پیش 2 ماه
Her profile picture is changing every month :) (maybe a rainbow)
rast absuelo lab`s u
rast absuelo lab`s u پیش 2 ماه
QUEEN CL IS BACK
cara kim
cara kim پیش 2 ماه
nctzen used to be meme witty fandom but now that nct gained lots of fans so the toxicity in their fandom is insane. imagine hating your own faves nctzens thingz only.
karo is art
karo is art پیش 2 ماه
I'm getting whole 2nd gen vibes from you
karo is art
karo is art پیش 2 ماه
LMAO ANGELINE YOU MUST BE SO THANKFULL THAT I WATCH EVERY SECOND OF YOUR VIDEOS. PLEASE KEEP GETTING CANCELED. I LOVE YOU. CL DOES SO AS WELL
Nakamoto Puta
Nakamoto Puta پیش 2 ماه
The girl: So here’s why this is important- Shotaro: ❔👄❔
luce covers
luce covers پیش 2 ماه
WE CAN'T HAVE A CL COMEBACK WITHOUT HAVING ANGELINA TALKING ABOUT IT
peEvcHes RoVESIx
peEvcHes RoVESIx پیش 2 ماه
I would definately call out them in front of their face instead of posting in online which has a 0.01% chance of being seen by them, as they are human and y'all say human makes mistake honey, those mistakes that human makes should be corrected too no matter how famous they are it would atleast keep them from thinking that doing something "that maybe offesive to some fans" is okay! And i m saying it as a desi nctzen And y'all treating shotarao like he is an infant born yesterday. He might be new to NCT but is a damn grown man🙄, y'all wont understand it anyways as its not your culture thats been mocked
sayanara
sayanara پیش 2 ماه
As a brown person, what taeyong said wasn't even offensive or anything "colorist". If you pay attention, Lucas' side was actually darker than the other one and Taeyong just thought he wouldn't appear clearly in the frame so he made that remark. When we take pictures, isn't light important? or else even a light skinned person can appear dark and vice versa. And koreans even confirmed the subs were wrong. People are just making a huge deal out of it for no reason. Being desi, seeing NCT try out different concepts especially in MAW mv, it actually made me happy they are appreciating middle eastern culture and the decorations are getting even more known for their specialty. As far as the CA is concerned, I don't think it was their intention to hurt people but of course not everyone is the same and some even got hurt seeing their fav group "mock" them. Do you think they'll hesitate to apologize if they realized they have offended their fans? I am a new nctzen and I have noticed that they are really devoted to their fandom and will do anything to make us happy. And I think they were just trying to copy the "bobblehead statues" using those hand gestures. They didn't mean anything else. And SM should should be responsible for the hate the group is getting. Not just idols, all of us should get educated about CA etc. Even though i don't blame NCT for anything, their staff and the group should be educated by their company, not fans. We are no one to educate them. They are grown people who know what they're doing, just a bit oblivious about stuff like this, since their idol life is a lot different than ours. It's just my opinion, no offence. STREAM FROM HOME AND MAKE A WISH THE BOYS WORKED HARD FOR THIS COMEBACK SUPPORT THEM!!
Aleia Jean
Aleia Jean پیش 2 ماه
Why did you say "confronted at a fansign" like that's the only reason why I clicked and they weren't even confronted at a fansign. Also, space out your ads more, it feels like a workout.
Ahndrianah Bryant
Ahndrianah Bryant پیش 2 ماه
What evidence can you have 5-10 years later? Who keeps a blk eye that long or a scratch? Who thinks to take pictures? WTH??
Marshmallow 74
Marshmallow 74 پیش 2 ماه
Cl is pushing 40 she NEEDA find somethin else to do.
Frida León
Frida León پیش 2 ماه
👁👄👁👌🏽
Stefania Ogun
Stefania Ogun پیش 2 ماه
ahhh ok i understand. well it's just pure ignorance i also didn't know this ..
minho's cats litterbox
minho's cats litterbox پیش 2 ماه
I can't really say anything regarding these kinds of topics since first of all I am NOT in those fandoms I'm just a casual listener. Second I am not one to speak regarding those topics but anyways... I really hate language barriers ughhh, I mean trying to translate a language is hard but understanding and explaining is a whole other thing. I'm not saying people should change their language, it's just that it is really frustrating because language and cultural barriers is really hard to overcome. What one culture or language says is not offensive, it probably is in another place. This is why there are so many misinterpretations or just confusion. I just wish there is a way to get litteral direct translation that can clear things up. So both sides of arguments will actually be able to understand each other's side and point of view. (I'm sorry if this came out as rude btw, it's not my intention to be one. It's just that so much stuff is going on and I need to let go of some steam)
Oh dAddy
Oh dAddy پیش 2 ماه
Man, Taeyong just indirectly admitted that Lucas was a little tanner than the others, therefore looked a bit darker in the dim lighting. He wasn't disrespecting him, was he?? Me and my friends always talk each other being dark complexioned and stuff, but we never really get offended. My friends call me dark complexioned, but it doesn't mean that they're disrespecting me. Unless I face any sort of discrimination, why should I be offended??
Oh dAddy
Oh dAddy پیش 2 ماه
BRUH it was really weird to have confronted Shotaro like that on the issue. It wasn't his fault. And if they have a problem, they're supposed to discuss it with the agency, not the idols. I feel sad about that. People should educate themselves before trying to educate others. It would've made him so uncomfortable. I'm not a k-netizen, but I'm definitely not happy with what they did
GoldenP3arl
GoldenP3arl پیش 2 ماه
NCT gets hate no matter what they do. Taeyong literally wasn't making fun of or insulting Lucas in any way about his skin tone. He was talking about the lighting--and Lucas is darker-skinned than the others, so why is anybody surprised that Taeyong pointed that fact out? Lucas being a little tanner than the others means the camera isn't going to capture him in a good lighting, simple as that. I don't think Lucas was offended, and they all seemed to take it very light-heartedly. Then, with Make a Wish, yes, the boys shouldn't have done that, but I've never seen so many death threats aimed at idols for doing something like that before. It's SM's and South Korea and East Asia's fault as a whole because they don't know it's rude and inappropriate. Instead, call the company out. Be polite when educating the boys. Tell a member who isn't 1 goddamn month into his debut in a whole new country speaking a whole new language. The members don't know what they're doing is inappropriate, so imagine how hurt they must be to suddenly wake up receiving death threats and calls to leave the group for something they didn't know was wrong.
ER J
ER J پیش 2 ماه
Is there no grace for these idols, I mean guys seriously...do you expect them to have a huge binder with run downs about every single culture and world religion just so they don't offend anyone? this is life...you are going to come across things that offend you or you don't like, but the world keeps spinning. I've seen idols wearing cross jewelry and other "Christian" items who are clearly not respecting my morals and I don't start cancelling ppl. Edit:Ya i was a little miffed by the Bible imagery in BTS On video, but i took a breathe and got over myself and prayed that it would be a reminder to some Christian army out there to read their bible.
Ellie
Ellie پیش 2 ماه
this is why companies should stop using other people's culture in music videos as an "aesthetic". the line between culture appropriation and appreciation of just too thin. i get that they want to appeal to global audiences, but it's too risky.
Kit Kat
Kit Kat پیش 2 ماه
i'm really confused about the lucas issue. is that really so offensive, even if taeyong was referring to him being a bit tanner? maybe i'm just not educated enough about the issue but i feel like it all depends on the circumstances sometimes - while it's obviously not ok to mock someone for their skin, it's different when you're with your friends who you know mean no harm. sometimes me and my friends make jokes that might be considered slightly offensive about each other, but we know it's ok to do it inbetween us because we know each other and we know we don't actually mean it in a serious way. if one of my friends told me it offended them, i obviously would stop but we're all ok with it so yeah - i feel like with lucas it was the same type of situation and it shouldn't be taken so seriously.
Jada Alston
Jada Alston پیش 2 ماه
Let’s stop pretending. that is a ongoing joke to make fun of someone who you feel has a darker skin complexion. People even say that joke even in the back community sadly. It is clearly colorism. The fact that fans are trying to cap and say otherwise is beyond me.
Andrea Samuel
Andrea Samuel پیش 2 ماه
Can anyone give me the link of Shotaro's fansign ca video?
azra sarvar
azra sarvar پیش 2 ماه
Whenever I have heard everglows name it's always related to cultural appropriation,idols are companies money making Machine so you want to hurt them where it hurts so they stop doing this kind of shit,when an idol gets criticised they become less marketable that means less money.atleast that's how I see it.
doies.
doies. پیش 2 ماه
i want to clarify the part regarding shotaro. that fan who tried explaining the situation to shotaro is NOT at fault at all. everyone who won a video call only got to call ONE member (as far as i know). the fan didnt choose to tell this to shotaro. in fact, what happened was nctzens on stan twitter were almost begging fans who won video calls to spend some time educating the member, and this fan was one of the only ones who did (if not the only one). they sacrificed the entire 2-3 minutes they had, that they cld have spent talking about something else, about this. they tried their best. you should be thanking this fan instead. so, before you complain, please try to understand the actual situation beforehand. nothing on the internet is completely true. and if you have nothing nice to say, just shut up.
Akaashi’s b*tch
Akaashi’s b*tch پیش 2 ماه
Why Shotaro though? I swear, Nctzens do the nicest things but in the dumbest ways sometimes.
-seesaw- kpop
-seesaw- kpop پیش 2 ماه
I believe fans also tried to educate yangyang in a fan sign as well. I personally feel like using your time in a fan sign (wich is expensive and short) shouldn't be used for these kinds of things. sm is supposed to protect their idols from doing things like this so I think sm should be the one to be informed about it. doing it in a fan sign (especially a new member that doesn't have much experience) isn't very appropriate in my opinion. But I do understand there were good intentions to help the idols from doing something like that again and upsetting so many people.
Nitya Singh
Nitya Singh پیش 2 ماه
YALL SNOWFLAKES. NOTHING ELSE. gen z gets hurt by anything.
Zeddy
Zeddy پیش 2 ماه
ateez killed nero i love their performances so much and also wtf why shotaro?? i dont find what they did offensive but if fans want to tell them that they do then tell the members who did it or the company behind them ill never understand the mindset of 'educators'
Gen G.
Gen G. پیش 2 ماه
i hope shotaro is okay and wont get a trauma with fansign events (online or in person).
Shia san
Shia san پیش 2 ماه
Are idols now expected to be educated on every single aspect of every single culture across the whole wide world even though they were never exposed to it? Like most these controversies made me realise i knew nothing about those other cultures either!! I know you feel offended about the stereotypical representation of your culture, but can you genuinely say you are 100% educated on every culture that is not your own and would never inadvertently represent it inappropriately?
Ghostly Dragon
Ghostly Dragon پیش 2 ماه
Not y'all defendind Shotaro like he's 5. Shotaro and I are around the same age and I know not to do what he did. If I was an idol or any type of influencer, I would like to be educated on what I did was wrong. It is not like they were bashing him or anything. Idols are not clueless. Humans are not clueless. Asians are not clueless. It is almost as y'all are insulting them by thinking they are clueless and cannot talk about different issues. Also, SM receive countless emails from fans telling the company to teach their idols about culture. Colleges literally offer classes, so why can't SM hire a couple of teachers to teach about these issues dealing with culture. These idols are obviously not doing any reearch. If the company wants to produce a global group they need to respect the global audience, and if idols want to be in a global group, they should be willing to learn about the global audience. (That statement literally goes for anyone who wants to go global.) The fatphobic and colorist comments hurt other Asians too, so that behavior should not be normalized either. Some of you would sing to idols, tell them to do aegyo, and other embarrassing things, but don't someone dare call them out or it is hell on earth.
Ghostly Dragon
Ghostly Dragon پیش 2 ماه
@Louise A yeah thats true. I agree.
Louise A
Louise A پیش 2 ماه
@Ghostly Dragon i totally agree with you but still, I hoped she had prepared a better way to tell her point across. Because honestly, her call out was almost pointless since she poorly stated it and shotaro couldn't even understand it i guess thats why people are mad about it 😔
Ghostly Dragon
Ghostly Dragon پیش 2 ماه
@Louise A You're right that a white person shouldn't have talked to him about that and she could have used Japanese but he still did do it so it's every right for Desi people to talk to everyone who did it. Desi people have constantly called out companies but they do not listen so the next step it to directly confront idols.
Louise A
Louise A پیش 2 ماه
They're defending him bcs he's not the person to address the situation with. He just debuted and the fan was speaking to him in english which he can't speak and understand. He can't even understand and talk in korean that well yet. Also, the fan was white not a desi and she wasn't really making her point clear in the first place. I mean how could you possibly state your point in english in 2 minutes to a member who won't understand you. Like I get it and I'm happy she's taking initiative to call the members out but shotaro really shouldn't be the person you talk to about the issue.
Alexander Aone
Alexander Aone پیش 2 ماه
Not having bad intentions doesn't justify being uneducated
Tensa
Tensa پیش 2 ماه
People should realise the concept for nct u's make a wish was based on arabic culture.
Lalrinmawii Hmar
Lalrinmawii Hmar پیش 2 ماه
Nct is getting more love thats why there are more haters
My name is Sarai
My name is Sarai پیش 2 ماه
lmao your friends name is Eshanti and my name is Ashanti. That’s wild. I like it.
Emily Fullsun
Emily Fullsun پیش 2 ماه
I feel really really bad for shotaro
Hailey Morgan
Hailey Morgan پیش 2 ماه
I don't know why that girl tryna educate shorato because she said herself she ain't educated herself so why a uneducated person tryna educate a person who probably knows more then her like my Jamaican parents say "pot ah cuss kettle when both of of them batty black"
天使
天使 پیش 2 ماه
Funny how whenever NCT has a successful comeback there is some kind of mistranslation
Fernanda Larriva
Fernanda Larriva پیش 2 ماه
CLLLLLL
Niko niko !
Niko niko ! پیش 2 ماه
It’s the fact that people are trying to educate NCT when really ,, they should rly try to educate the staff and the people who decided the dance or outfits and actually had a SAY in the choice of the concept with make a wish instead of trying to boycott these men who can’t even have their own phones for a long period of time or can’t have any lives without either supervision or permission . Y’all pick and choose who to hate on and this is why I say kpop fans are rly toxic .
Yokohama Ryusei visuals kill me
why the fuck only Shotaro r being "educated" . the other guy did it too right? wtf is wrong with that girl. cringe as hell
farimah mz
farimah mz پیش 2 ماه
People tried to do the same thing with the background stage of nct u comeback so I just thought I should make this clear. You need to understand that a certain gesture or hair or clothes or anything doesn't just belong to one country or culture. In my country that fairy ending hand gesture is a dance move not inappropriate or religious it's a dance move. And the background theme is Persian architecture not found only in mosques but you can actually see a music room , palace , hall ,school or ... with the exact same architectury.
Taii RW
Taii RW پیش 2 ماه
Lol I'm from Jamaica and thats not offensive to me 😂
Kyle Reynolds
Kyle Reynolds پیش 2 ماه
same
cruel cruel
cruel cruel پیش 2 ماه
as someone who has been the butt of many "it's so dark i cant even see you!" jokes and knowing how lucas has beautifully golden skin i know taeyong was for sure being colourist to him:-/ i love them both so I hope taeyong could issue an apology. I know he probably doesn't look at lucas disgustingly because lucas is a strong visual and ty constantly compliments him on it, but i'm sure taeyong (along with the majority of koreans lol) have been raised up to think dark skin is something detrimental and wrong.! and that definitely needs to change.
_Moon Moon_
_Moon Moon_ پیش 2 ماه
Someone also tried to “educate” Yangyang during a fan call as well. I personally found it to be annoying because they were very obviously uncomfortable during the call. There’s a time and a place for everything and that just wasn’t it.
Simran lambodari
Simran lambodari پیش 2 ماه
So idols cant use mudras but Indians gonna continue with Oppa and Saranghae? Grow up people
Simran lambodari
Simran lambodari پیش 2 ماه
@LOVESICK petals exactly
LOVESICK petals
LOVESICK petals پیش 2 ماه
Ikr. Mudras are also used in yoga with is originated in India but worldwide. Saying this as a Indian before some butthurt asses come for me.
ZK Arooj
ZK Arooj پیش 2 ماه
I believe what the fan did was right but not with the right person. when fans/ people in general are offended, they should speak out and educate but in Shotaro case he just debuted and became an adult. He probably didn't even what went wrong, but the selection of the fan's words were very appropriate. its good that he gets educated about this. Still it would have been better if the concern had been called upon Taeyong as he's the leader and the oldest. unfortunately it was Shotaro first fanmeet , it could have been better on the bright side at least our concern has HOPEFULLY reached NCT and will understand the situation, hence not making this mistake again ( apologize too) remember that we are all sinners, with this act they will learn enable them to educate others too.
Olona올로나
Olona올로나 پیش 2 ماه
If you are not black close those two lips of your and sit down 🪑
LOVESICK petals
LOVESICK petals پیش 2 ماه
Y e s 👏I'm not black so 🤐
i- no!
i- no! پیش 2 ماه
Wow no one's talking about how dejun and Taeyong made fun of out cultural dance moves.... Oof also Mnet set up MAW stage with Islamic sacred shrines and banners... 😧😖😕🤦
Zeus Lee
Zeus Lee پیش 2 ماه
I would definitely do my best to educate them so in order to do so I’ll tell a member who can understand me best. I don’t think shotaro understood the main point at all since most Japanese can’t understand english very well.
Pinkrevenge101
Pinkrevenge101 پیش 2 ماه
If you read my whole rant wow thanks! Like you mentioned the term reggae hair being apart of korean language. The same move taeyong n xioajun did relating it to thier aladdin concept the movie itself has orientalism and creates stereotypes being used in tiktok mockingly that's the problem if it's not done with accurate music for appreciation. That dance move I've seen other idols do it as well like head bopping to curry song or tunak tunak blackpink recently on knowing bros. I think that doing it on a comedy show like Heechul did can be offensive n just associating that one move can be seen as mocking to some ppl but nct doing it also problematic cuz the main concept is middle eastern culture but some Indian aspects etc n it confuses fans n audience more mixing these cultures with stereotypes. One fan told Yangyang in thier fansign that nct has global fans n thier saying is to the world that they should be more attentive with those actions n words n able learn too. since they are idols sm teaches them lang but why not some culture lessons? The main source of problem dwelling in the stylists doing black braid hairstyles like recently Jeno was in a durag for misfit mv. What also makes them thinks it's ok cuz they do draw inspiration from western artists doing the same thing and think its alright I hate how kfans say it's not int fans place to 'educate' them but they need to be careful if they will use things from cultures with significance that can be harmful. Like Rihanna used arabic verses for her fashion show recently but apologized and Label V for wayv took down thier tikok usingt a Indian vocal sound for comedy. If the members relay the fans concern to the company or staff listening then it can make a change I dont see anything wrong with it cuz they dont know any better or that people were offended. Theres also an issue with the song Carloine by amine being popular in korea n idols sining along to specific part where the n word is said n the group Cravity is seen in the town vid a boy says it but editor cut it before the n word the fact they know its wrong yet they're doing it. Honestly everyone has internet and if you're going to become a global group they should def become more aware with cultural appropriation theres a vid by a korean girl on yt doing reggae hair n did her research on its meaning importance if she can learn so can others holding them accountable for doing something isnt wrong in the end kpop is a business.
Pinkrevenge101
Pinkrevenge101 پیش 2 ماه
Omg I feel the same way like my body has a built in kpop clock 😭 but thankfully I'm up till 12am anyways wow seeing CL on us tv since her Olympics performance I just Superm perform on the same show just a few days ago
SY T
SY T پیش 2 ماه
As a translator of JP + CN to EN, I can safely say that there are plenty of words within the east asian vocabulary that do not have accurate english translations. English is a way simpler language in comparison. People who don't understand the language really shouldn't get upset of any subtle nuances that could or could not have been implied by the translations. So sick of i-fans getting upset and nitpicking at everything idols do
Rachel P.
Rachel P. پیش 2 ماه
Honestly, I wouldn't confront them at a fan signing because they probably would not be in the right mindset to have such an important conversation and it will probably put them in a weird/bad mood, making all of their interactions with the rest of the fans not as great as they could be. ALSO, I would not confront somebody for anything important while using a language they hardly understand while recording it... That's just dirty sis...
Jessica Å
Jessica Å پیش 2 ماه
To be fair, the Lucas colorism comments don't surprise me seeing as NCT has been pretty colorist from the start... I remember watching their On Air interview with Heechul and there were so many comments about them being handsome because they're white. I know it's an East and South Asian thing to praise whiteness, so I'm not surprised. But I think Western fans gotta understand it's cultural. It's obviously still not okay, but it's so ingrained in many Asian societies. I know it from Thailand very well myself (I'm not Thai but I have been there a lot and have seen it for myself, with whitening being a selling point of every skin product). Just don't try and judge, try and educate, and simply understand where it's coming from. It's hard to see through that sort of thinking when you've grown up with it. The CA stuff is worse in my book, because it's joking about traditional elements that are important to a lot of people. Neither is okay, but yeah, just try and educate in a nice way. Don't jump on baby idols who just started out lmao like. Wtf.
Hina히나
Hina히나 پیش 2 ماه
I don't want to be part of these people who overprotect their idols but I think Sihyeon shouldn't have been this much attacked for just using a word that is totally fine in her language...
Fra Don't mess with beans
She apologised and many kpop stans have praised for her words that are way better than an empty apology letter or just an apology from the company! She genuinely sounded heartbroken for offending their fans. So hopefully now kpop stans are aware of how much of a beautiful person she is and that she is willing to educate herself!
Alya Fitri
Alya Fitri پیش 2 ماه
Since you mentioned about some group that had a comeback, and u mentioned about a group covered oh my girl 'dolphin', I just want to inform u guys that oh my girl's senior group B1A4 had a comeback too, please check their music guys, they are in their 10th years of career, so please support them too if u support WM entertainment, thank youuu...
xiaojun's eyebrows
xiaojun's eyebrows پیش 2 ماه
and now yangyang and johnny are getting "educated" by these so called fans. If ya'll "fans" have something to say to your idols, please EDUCATE YOURSELF and embrace the Korean culture first then come up with a logical reasoning instead of harassing the idols online by trying to get your "point" across. Also yangyang and Johnny are not even part of MAW smh
xiaojun's eyebrows
xiaojun's eyebrows پیش 2 ماه
honestly these "fans" want to be woke THAT badly that they seem more concerned with finding CA in anything when they themselves are not even educated about other people's cultures. THEY ARE NOT FANS!! No idols should take this kind of abuse. They'll waste their opportunities to meet their fav idols just to "educate" them for the sake of uplifting their woke ego
Dheekshitha Dhiwakar
Dheekshitha Dhiwakar پیش 2 ماه
I agree with CA becoming more and more common in k-pop but there have been certain instances where it's been really blown out of proportion in my opinion. I'm an Indian. If there was Indian music playing in the background and Taeyong did that u would have definitely been offended. But there was no such thing there. He just did it spontaneously. I understand if others are offended and I won't tell them not to be offended. But twitter is really going overboard with the whole thing. Too much drama and too much stupidity. Cancel culture is so damn toxic. Also sending emails to SM is better than confronting the members directly, especially when the members aren't English speakers. He also just debuted. So not a smart move.
D S
D S پیش 2 ماه
I'm just here for CL, Oh My Girl and BTS
sh
sh پیش 2 ماه
"bordering on cultural appropriation" what culture exactly??? apparently aladdin is a whole culture by himself
BTS5EVER
BTS5EVER پیش 2 ماه
I would become a member but I'm broke.......
South Carter
South Carter پیش 2 ماه
Just Google Hyolyn and Seungyeon if you want to understand colorism in Korea. They have both been made fun of or forced to wear makeup to lighten up their skin
Nancy Barajas
Nancy Barajas پیش 2 ماه
Imma be honest. I am SUPER uneducated when it comes to other cultures. If I were to make a mistake like NCT U has made I would appreciate it if people would take the time to educate me about the situation instead of trying to cancel me. Cancel culture should go away because at this point it has become a trend to ruins anyone's career no matter how small or big the mistake was. People have made it a mission to cancel in the first wrong move when it can be resolved pretty easily.
Sikowitz coconut
Sikowitz coconut پیش 2 ماه
I don't get why people are saying it was the wrong time (but wrong person I agree with) like when exactly is the right time then??? Your literally face to face speaking....what you want them to do write to sm or something(because yes that's totally going to work lmao(sarcasim). Honestly though if your gonna confront them which I 1000% stand by make sure you say exactly what the issue is. Like don't make it harder on yourself trying to beat around the bush :)
Nancy Barajas
Nancy Barajas پیش 2 ماه
to have ALL of Korean to find a different word to use going to be a tough one.
Zaki B
Zaki B پیش 2 ماه
I'm black but i weren't offended with what Sihyeon said because actually the way the strings were styled did acc look like that type of hair so what she's human im pretty sure u and ur friends talk about different styles of hair and u don't get called out on but bc sihyeon is in the limelight she has to be careful with every little thing she says not fair at all
Honey M
Honey M پیش 2 ماه
Sihyeon did nothing wrong tho, it was a minstranslation if I'm not wrong.
HOT ISSUE
HOT ISSUE پیش 2 ماه
LOL SO IF AN INDIAN DOING A KOREAN DANCE ITS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION RIGHT HAHAHHAHHAHA
Spritemint 93
Spritemint 93 پیش 2 ماه
Shotaro... 😭😭😭
bangchantine eats bleach
bangchantine eats bleach پیش 2 ماه
*so I log out of twitter for like an hour and everyone is getting cancelled like-*
Anni
Anni پیش 2 ماه
Is there restriction on body movements now? Like who has the status to educate about which movements/gestures are significant in different cultures? The same gesture could mean opposite things in 2 different cultures. And there are so many different cultures! How possibly could anyone know NOT to do a certain movement. Movements do not belong to set cultures cause otherwise we'd be onto stereotypes. I would agree though, if you are going to live or travel in a new country, to check out the no no's before you upset someone there locally. Cause you are actually there! And then when you have learnt about the new cultures to keep it in mind and heart forever! I understand why people get angry but they also need to understand and differentiate whom mean no harm and the real mockers.
Zen Eunoia
Zen Eunoia پیش 2 ماه
You know what’s sad about Shitaro’s issue?..They are hurt by what Shitaro has done but nowadays, everything that matters are just the fans’ feelings..I know fans are the reason for an idol success. But idols don’t live to fullfills the fans demands..They have their own limits and weakness. They are entertainers. Stop talking like just because you are a fan or netizen, you can tell yours idols what they should be or become. Stop being so sensitive or possessive of your idols just because they can’t fullfill your expectations.
Isa Vitória
Isa Vitória پیش 2 ماه
This is ridiculous, so they can't even walk anymore kkkkk what taeyong was doing is a emoji kkkkkk
Shell Gutierrez
Shell Gutierrez پیش 2 ماه
I'm so done with all these exaggerated entitled "fans". Dadaan lang po sa makitid na eskinita. K.bye.
lychee_yi
lychee_yi پیش 2 ماه
Me : *Gets an ad of Loona's 'Why Not' M/V at the start of the video* Also me : ... *Is Angelina gettin paid by BBC-?*
peace leigh
peace leigh پیش 2 ماه
Gosh it wasn't just Shotaro that got talked to about CA at a fan sign other members that did the offensive gesture are going to he talked to as well for example yangyang those who keep saying it shotaro alone like..... I get the point tho that he just came into the group and that was probably a bit too much and tbh I don't think he fully understood what the fan was telling him 😂 he's too cute
Kaii
Kaii پیش 2 ماه
Hi angelina!Could you talk about views freezing?I don’t know the reason behind the views being frozen because it is annoying me so much...Thanks!
Aadilah Abrahams
Aadilah Abrahams پیش 2 ماه
Okay but the way the fan worded the concern to Shotaro wasn't an attempt to attack, it sounded like a well worded heads up, so.
ilyas fafouri
ilyas fafouri پیش 2 ماه
ANGELINA check the fuckin teaser , Cl is here for the blood
Ni_ki & shotaro_My child
Ni_ki & shotaro_My child پیش 2 ماه
Your making the situation worse. Gurl ddang Taeyong didn't even mention Lucas it's the lights or what
Ni_ki & shotaro_My child
Ni_ki & shotaro_My child پیش 2 ماه
I feel so bad and annoyed. Why shotaro again?... They literally ruin shotaro first fan meeting. What the heck.
Amirah Khan
Amirah Khan پیش 2 ماه
When you said support her “song hwa “ it sounded exactly like Seonghwa from Ateez lol
Shiku Irungu
Shiku Irungu پیش 2 ماه
i think she meant dreadlocks. either way, some things guys need to chill out on. sincerely, a black fan.
cloudy jun
cloudy jun پیش 2 ماه
The calling out on shotaro one wasn't necessary at all. They should call out sm for that but not nct themselves. Shotaro is a NEW member fyi and that fan had the audacity to actually call him out like that. He's such a baby and he looked so scared when he heard that :((
TaMaGo CaT
TaMaGo CaT پیش 2 ماه
Who else watches the whole video
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